Comments on: An inconvenient truth http://mika.kfib.org/wordpress/2007/02/15/an-inconvenient-truth/ Mika's personal development blog Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:04:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Edward Aschan http://mika.kfib.org/wordpress/2007/02/15/an-inconvenient-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-35931 Edward Aschan Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:30:21 +0000 http://mika.kfib.org/wordpress/2007/02/15/an-inconvenient-truth/#comment-35931 This guy makes a compeling argument for taking action against global warming. Worth watching! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDsIFspVzfI This guy makes a compeling argument for taking action against global warming. Worth watching!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDsIFspVzfI

]]> By: Mika Perälä http://mika.kfib.org/wordpress/2007/02/15/an-inconvenient-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-17243 Mika Perälä Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:40:44 +0000 http://mika.kfib.org/wordpress/2007/02/15/an-inconvenient-truth/#comment-17243 Hehe, not so brilliant, eh! It's like the oscars. Many of the celebrities brag about their environmental involvement, but take big limousines to the Oscars. They're not so environmental... yet. Hehe, not so brilliant, eh! It’s like the oscars. Many of the celebrities brag about their environmental involvement, but take big limousines to the Oscars. They’re not so environmental… yet.

]]> By: JenEriC http://mika.kfib.org/wordpress/2007/02/15/an-inconvenient-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-17212 JenEriC Thu, 22 Mar 2007 06:46:39 +0000 http://mika.kfib.org/wordpress/2007/02/15/an-inconvenient-truth/#comment-17212 http://bash.org/?742578 :( What was he thinking? http://bash.org/?742578 (

What was he thinking?

]]> By: Caroline http://mika.kfib.org/wordpress/2007/02/15/an-inconvenient-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-14645 Caroline Mon, 05 Mar 2007 23:07:34 +0000 http://mika.kfib.org/wordpress/2007/02/15/an-inconvenient-truth/#comment-14645 The Karlén article is not very convincing at all, I'd say. First and foremost, the concepts of greenhouse effect (which is mainly a good thing) and global warming (which is mainly a bad thing) are confused to the point that the term "global warming" is not even used, while they don't seem to be talking about anything else, really. Second, this is, as someone pointed out, not a scientific, peer-reviewed journal and thus it's very hard to judge its credibility (although the same could of course be said about the documentary). Third, they are trying to use his work with a geographical journal to raise his credibility, though the issue is with the climate and not the geography. Fourth...the entire point of the article is pretty much "look, there's this guy, he doesn't agree". They don't even try to lay out an argument. There are no facts whatsoever. Conclusion: stay away from sub-par web-published articles and go read a proper book on the matter instead. ::) :pope: The Karlén article is not very convincing at all, I’d say.

First and foremost, the concepts of greenhouse effect (which is mainly a good thing) and global warming (which is mainly a bad thing) are confused to the point that the term “global warming” is not even used, while they don’t seem to be talking about anything else, really.

Second, this is, as someone pointed out, not a scientific, peer-reviewed journal and thus it’s very hard to judge its credibility (although the same could of course be said about the documentary).

Third, they are trying to use his work with a geographical journal to raise his credibility, though the issue is with the climate and not the geography.

Fourth…the entire point of the article is pretty much “look, there’s this guy, he doesn’t agree”. They don’t even try to lay out an argument. There are no facts whatsoever.

Conclusion: stay away from sub-par web-published articles and go read a proper book on the matter instead. )

pope

]]> By: Mika Perälä http://mika.kfib.org/wordpress/2007/02/15/an-inconvenient-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-14643 Mika Perälä Mon, 05 Mar 2007 22:58:39 +0000 http://mika.kfib.org/wordpress/2007/02/15/an-inconvenient-truth/#comment-14643 It is very confusing, one of these days I will dig for many days into the scientific scene to discover which side is right. Karlén is sceptical to the reports from IPCC, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, and that seems to be his major point, that the reports are not accurate. But he also says that the glaciers are only in natural variation, but neglects to mention the enormous melting that is happening in antartica, with ice that hasn't melted for many, many thousands of years. Here's another article that vows for the IPCC reports :) http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=2708&a=615479 And also, Karlén isn't a climate researcher. He studies cultural geografy (ehm, Kulturgeograf). It is very confusing, one of these days I will dig for many days into the scientific scene to discover which side is right. Karlén is sceptical to the reports from IPCC, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, and that seems to be his major point, that the reports are not accurate. But he also says that the glaciers are only in natural variation, but neglects to mention the enormous melting that is happening in antartica, with ice that hasn’t melted for many, many thousands of years. Here’s another article that vows for the IPCC reports )

http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=2708&a=615479

And also, Karlén isn’t a climate researcher. He studies cultural geografy (ehm, Kulturgeograf).

]]> By: Modin http://mika.kfib.org/wordpress/2007/02/15/an-inconvenient-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-14639 Modin Mon, 05 Mar 2007 22:40:14 +0000 http://mika.kfib.org/wordpress/2007/02/15/an-inconvenient-truth/#comment-14639 There's always a dissenting viewpoint, and journalists always look for 'the other side'. But to quote Dawkins, "one side can be wrong". It seems to me like Karlén et al make it too simple, as if global warming is 'obviously' not a problem. If it's so obvious, why is there more or less a scientific consensus? Or does Karlén represent many more scientists? Eventually it starts to sound like a conspiracy theory. What's interesting to me is, to what extent are they publishing their findings in peer-reviewed journals? This was obviously a news story, which has no scientific value at all. There’s always a dissenting viewpoint, and journalists always look for ‘the other side’. But to quote Dawkins, “one side can be wrong”. It seems to me like Karlén et al make it too simple, as if global warming is ‘obviously’ not a problem. If it’s so obvious, why is there more or less a scientific consensus? Or does Karlén represent many more scientists? Eventually it starts to sound like a conspiracy theory.

What’s interesting to me is, to what extent are they publishing their findings in peer-reviewed journals? This was obviously a news story, which has no scientific value at all.

]]> By: Fredrik Persson http://mika.kfib.org/wordpress/2007/02/15/an-inconvenient-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-14633 Fredrik Persson Mon, 05 Mar 2007 21:46:56 +0000 http://mika.kfib.org/wordpress/2007/02/15/an-inconvenient-truth/#comment-14633 It doesn't seem very wise to buy into Al Gore's story hook, line and sinker. For example, I just ran across this interview with Wibjörn Karlén, of Uppsala University: http://www.realtid.se/ArticlePages/200703/01/20070301172408_Realtid257/20070301172408_Realtid257.dbp.asp Karlén gives a quite different view from what Gore et.al. is representing. Personally, I'm very cautius with the global warming issue. It is WAY too much of FUD so far. It doesn’t seem very wise to buy into Al Gore’s story hook, line and sinker. For example, I just ran across this interview with Wibjörn Karlén, of Uppsala University:

http://www.realtid.se/ArticlePages/200703/01/20070301172408_Realtid257/20070301172408_Realtid257.dbp.asp

Karlén gives a quite different view from what Gore et.al. is representing.

Personally, I’m very cautius with the global warming issue. It is WAY too much of FUD so far.

]]> By: kendoka.se » An Inconvenient Truth http://mika.kfib.org/wordpress/2007/02/15/an-inconvenient-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-13892 kendoka.se » An Inconvenient Truth Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:12:17 +0000 http://mika.kfib.org/wordpress/2007/02/15/an-inconvenient-truth/#comment-13892 [...] största Aha!-upplevelse var antagligen samma som den som Mika hade, nämligen att det vetenskapliga stödet för att det finns ett människoskapat problem med [...] [...] största Aha!-upplevelse var antagligen samma som den som Mika hade, nämligen att det vetenskapliga stödet för att det finns ett människoskapat problem med [...]

]]> By: Modin http://mika.kfib.org/wordpress/2007/02/15/an-inconvenient-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-13800 Modin Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:15:52 +0000 http://mika.kfib.org/wordpress/2007/02/15/an-inconvenient-truth/#comment-13800 Yes, he's hilarious there :-) Yes, he’s hilarious there -)

]]> By: Mika Perälä http://mika.kfib.org/wordpress/2007/02/15/an-inconvenient-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-13799 Mika Perälä Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:11:17 +0000 http://mika.kfib.org/wordpress/2007/02/15/an-inconvenient-truth/#comment-13799 :hystery: :hystery: :hystery: :hystery: :hystery: :hystery: That's hysterical!!! I had no idea he could be so funny! I'll have to write that into a post! hystery hystery hystery hystery hystery hystery That’s hysterical!!! I had no idea he could be so funny! I’ll have to write that into a post!

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